Honestly, its not the most interesting storyline, but the gameplay makes up for it. But the mechanic that gave us the ability to walk through a hole in space to find new dimensions, items, and curses was a really great jump. There were even 14 places to put crests to show who owned it. A look at one of my favorite Legacy Games and the story moments that stood out. Efficient. Press J to jump to the feed. There is still some strategic play, with several players running around and smashing so that a final player can INVOKE to close the portal, but its still a big step down from Chapters Two and Three, which had multi-stage strategic cooperation that we thought would be the new normal for the game, but which has largely disappeared in the games since. we looked through the purgatory deck, through the tomb. Our first clue is a really big number on Octavia (we think its a 9, but it turns out to be a 6). and our But now that were four games in, were more looking forward to seeing how things advance, because it feels like the Legacy and the co-op play are clicking in a way that they werent early on. . Many legacy games are designed for one playthrough of the campaign, and that holds true for Betrayal Legacy. Figure 5-2: The Deed to the House is an example of the very weak Legacy elements in this game. This can be for attack, defense, an Event card or a Haunt roll. This allows some strategic work, as some players are fighting, some are dragging, and some are magically moving. Meanwhile, we also knew the house and thus were aware of things like there was an Omen space in the Outside and that the last Ground Floor tile was going to reveal a secret door. It will contain **Spoilers up to and including Game 4**. You have been warned. Honestly, were still not thrilled: this second Haunt is so basic. We all win or lose as a group. Rules additions are a major element of Legacy games, and they can add a lot so well see what the next game brings. That small piece of paranoia was just perfectly placed. In fact when were down to our last piece of furniture, its increasingly obvious were going to win, which is never a great thing a round out in a co-op game. To a certain extent,Betrayal Legacyis starting to drag for us. Of course, if you didn't find Betrayal at House on the Hill to be fun, you might not love Betrayal Legacy. I love that idea, which is why Ive been so enthusiastic writing about the categorysLegacy Play, Legacy Venn, Legacy Mechanics, and Legacy Emotions in past articles. His family crest is clearly marked on the Deed to the House if we forget. It will contain **Spoilers up to and including Game 4**. Looks like there might be a few puns in future chants. Theres nothing left of the original story when youre finished. The person who used the helm the most is a traitor. It really was that much fun. Speaking of which. Figure 2-2: These characters will remain with us (when we dont murder them). There is a pair of linked actions: PREPARE, then SMASH, which you can use together to gather a bunch of mirror monsters together before destroying them but one player can do it all, eliminating the possibility of strategic cooperation between the players. Were all normal humans. Oops! One of the difficulties of Legacy games `is that they tend to start off with simple rules, then make them more complex game by game. Theyre also integral to the third Haunt, which (thankfully) adds a second level of complexity to the cooperative play. Betrayal Legacy: Chapter 8 Major Spoilers Ahead! You have been warned. Not only do we get a Sickle of War Legacy item to its appropriate family but the player then uses it to kill the evil baby! Legacy:The big Legacy element of this Chapter was the introduction of the Otherworlds, and to be honest, they were overwhelming. You can access all my other Betrayal posts HERE. We do have a bit of fun, talking about how theres always a secret passage off to the left of the front door, and sure enough. She apologized to John, fired the Crossbow, killed the monster, and stood as the Crossbow became engulfed in flames; an unholy weapon of the damned. It was tons of fun for me and my friends. but Pelase, can someone tell us where we should have started seeing gates. Take a second to support Shannon Appelcline on Patreon! An Item can only be an Heirloom for one player. Betrayal Legacy Ending Questions (Spoilers included) One more warning, this post will contain massive spoilers for anyone who hasn't completed the campaign. This level of complexity is nice because it increases the possibilities for strategic play, allowing for some asymmetric cooperation. The cooperative and storytelling elements are as good as they were before. Certain cards are destroyed or temporarily taken out of the game. Anyway, how about you? Balanced. I feel like this should have been opened when we transformed the elevator, but nothing on the card said to open door 6. Certainly, theres a plotted story that theyre interacting with, but they can still look at the game and the board and see the changes they chose to make. Betrayal Legacy is now available wherever board games are sold. We were scared of this. One mission immediately starts with a haunt, for example. In the original game, players always start out working together to explore a house up until the haunt is revealed. The other worlds open. If it reveals a branch with no stickers on it, simply choose again. Ending: Entries 203-205 are all obviously the different endings to the campaign. Figure 5-1: The Basement got plenty of attention this time. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Sadly, its again pretty rudimentary cooperation. Geeking out so you dont have to, but ummm, you will anyways, right? Game Reviewer, Story-Teller, Gamer, Hawaiian Shirt Aficionado, He/Him. This is one in a series of posts regarding the board game Betrayal Legacy. One of the joys of a Legacy game is seeing how it changes over time. That stickered-over tile, The Chasm, is an entrance to the Otherworlds, which appear as 28 new cards that we add to our box. And then we get to the haunt and theres no traitor. It had two checks and his wife, Ally, had found it during this particular game. . And, since Betrayal Legacy is a overlord-style co-op, I also decided to chronicle how its co-op play changes over time, as a complement to my work inMeeples Together. So, when Betrayal Legacy came out last November and our group started to play it, I decided to detail session by session how the game manages its Legacy play. Browse . . We do, he does, and the good guys win for the first time ever. Every one of us is convinced its a trap but every one of us put a sticker on it this game, and it may well be why we beat the Haunt. It will contain **Spoilers up to and including Game 2**. We've just played chapter 3 (I know, I'm risking so many spoilers being here), so have only brought it out of its resting place. Will Betrayal Legacy match our love of the classic horror? We often found the original game too random, and we felt like the long turns and variable length games often resulted in some or all players never getting off their feet, and so not getting to really experience the adventurous elements of the game. Scan this QR code to download the app now. Folio Infernum: I feel like we HAVE to have missed this. Its what wed call an overlord (like the oppositional player in games like Descent or Mansions of Madness 1e), not a proper traitor (like the oppositional player in Shadows over Camelot and Battlestar Galactica). Co-op:As the axe murderer is known, theres opportunity in this second game for some simple, tactical cooperation among the cooperating players. It was an amazing move. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Betrayal Legacy Subscribe Description Every house has a story. The design of this insert was so good that it made getting rid of it seem foolish since it organized everything so well, and perfectly held a second box of miniatures for when the game goes from old world aesthetic to a more modern focus. Figure 2-1: The rooms are familiar, but the layout is never quite the same; maybe were just confusing by the winding corridors? The ghosts increasingly haunting the house possess the furniture this session, and we have to burn it in a fire before it kills us. When we get to the Haunt its again tactical combat. Right away, Betrayal Legacy shows how it stands apart from the original Betrayal at House on the Hill. But it still feels a lot more one dimensional. Once youve completed the game youll have removed a number of cards from the decks as well as added many new ones. This post contains Hints & Tips for someone who has played up to Game 2 and is preparing to play Game 3. In fact, the rules then had me load stuff back under the insert several times after that causing me to take it out of the box multiple times. Simultaneously, there's the second overarching story of the family legacy of the players, who alter the house and its contents along the way. The Helm gives you a really great bonus of a reroll once per game and marking the helm with a family crest, which can give you story beats and other bonuses. Alternatively I think something along the lines of having a couple people chanting I am the key master while others chant I am the gatekeeper. We did encounter a few rules snags while playing, but if you just go with the story and as a group decide on what sounds the most fun and fair way to figure out the problem, you'll be fine. Obviously, there are spoilers here for Betrayal Legacy, but each entry should only talk about the surprises up to that date. Nonetheless, this article uses the word traitor because thats what Betrayal does. But we cant keep making our own fun. Now it (barely) fits within the build volume of an Ender 3. This time around, we discover theres a secret cult working out of the house, and we need to discover and kill their leader. First, players got to claim items for their family. Another starts with certain tiles of the board already discovered. Also that they let the first person to die know that there wasnt a witch just in case people were confused was so nice. Learn how your comment data is processed. we play the game and win (woohoo) and no rules come up for gates. This time, one of our number is possessed by their mirror copy from another dimension, who then tries to assimilate the rest of the characters (or else kill them). Just know there are so many smart ways Betrayal Legacy plays with expectations of those familiar with vanilla Betrayal. Mind you, the Haunt feels a bit more rudimentary than the last two, because its all tactical combat. InBetrayal Legacy it felt like this slow ramp-up negatively affected two crucial system: the Legacy elements and the cooperative play. We do. We would quickly go from friends to enemies once a traitor was revealed. So, its more of a Legacy element than most of the ones weve seen before. If you want to play through the story again, you'll need to buy an entirely new copy. Maybe someday I will, but for now Ill let that particular ghost slumber. The second set of miniatures. I was incredibly impressed when I was told to grab that box. So I know you can put your family crest on the helm for a reroll, but . Join Quests and Chaos as they Learn how to play through the board game Betrayal Legacy by Rob Daviau, and released by Avalon Hill of Wizards of the Coast. We didnt see many of our Legacy items due to a very quick haunt, and werent able to get them to the right people. The traitor wins again. Legacy:This second game suggested that a lot of the Legacy inBetrayal Legacyis going to be story-related. We end up screwing this game up, but it feels better than the others mainly because its got some clever mechanics that allow us some agency and because weuse that agency to screw up. All the resources here are offered free, but if you found a post useful, and you are in a position to help, I will gratefully accept any support. However, it looks to me like they are all just flavor text and nothing changes for any of them. Legacy:The Legacy elements also feel more interesting in this game. We were reading the last little bit of story; that denouement that brings it to a nice conclusion. There were two more interactive Legacy mechanics. This ensures players will have the tiles needed to finish each mission, and helps tell each mission's story and add to the worldbuilding. We define a traitor in a co-op game as someone whos purposefully lying in wait, trying to wreck the cooperation. We killed an innocent cook! Not all Items can be made into Heirlooms. As Ive seen my own groups games of Pandemic Legacy: Season Two and SeaFall expand, Ive regretted not chronicling that expansion over time. However the ramp-up of the cooperation may have been more problematic, as we moved through: (p) no cooperation; (1) tactical fighting; (2) minimal strategic cooperation; and (3) multi-stage strategic cooperation. What happens in between games is the most interesting part of Betrayal Legacy. The instructions in the Rule book simply say draw a random Rune token . Extra people to interact with, which can give you a bonus in the game. Next game were going to see our stickers on the helm, were going to remember our usage of this item, and maybe feel like we overdid it. Figure 1-1: Our second house sprawls more. You could have one person say baby shark and then everyone else could answer with do do doodoo all in monotone like you did before. So, well see repercussions of this game, mainly in new ways that the house is haunted, for the rest of our campaign. In most Legacy games, like PandemicandSeaFall, players are driving the explorations and many of the other changes to the game. This was easy to figure out we just didnt realize when it would happen. That we talked about how none of us might be a witch, but also how thats exactly what the witch would say. The betrayal of the Helm also brought on another twist. Learn how your comment data is processed. The most important is the Chalice of Insanity, the Omen that closes out the first game. . By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. One of the easiest ways to do this is to place a set of Runes face down on the table, and have a player choose one to turn face up. Have you already started your journey through the campaign? Oh, theoretically you might have a temporary tactical alliance when youre all working to kill a certain player, but you might not. Im going to try and minimize this for anyone just casually clicking this article by not naming the entries or including photos from the game in progress. The introduction of NPCs (non player characters) are another fun addition to the game. No finality, no wrapping up the overaching narrative of "Him", just done? I completed this campaign over a year ago and I still remember it with a fondness. The pre-Haunt play rarely feels long enough to be fulfilling, and then we descend into yet another variant of combat, and thats what happens once again. I'm worried there may be other instructions that we may have missed. ButBetrayal Legacydidnt. Essentially, a completed copy of Betrayal Legacy is a completely unique version of Betrayal at House on the Hill, shaped by the decisions you made during the campaign. (At least thats my hope; I do still have some concern that we might have just gotten lucky with our Legacy elements in our fourth game but Ill check in with you in three or four months to say for sure.). Heres an admission: none of us were fans ofBetrayal at House on the Hillgoing into ourBetrayal Legacycampaign. This is one in a series of posts regarding the board game Betrayal Legacy. I did it with this one. Every one of these had three boxes. Legacy: Were back to the core Legacy play being relatively shallow, though our cooperative play helps a few of the Legacy items get to the right people. We maximize our health tactically, and that lets us find the cure in the nick of time. Nobody owned the house anymore and the story reflected it. Co-op: We actually spend most of our time roleplaying rather than cooperating in the early part of the game, which is a fine alternative. Asmallbit of additional Legacy was introduced in this second game because the game (theoretically) could be won by either the traitor or the cooperators. To preserve anyone's experience, this review will be spoiler-free. The major bit of Legacy in this Chapter is that we get a whole new major mechanic. Betrayal Legacy is also smart for what it does and does not take from the original Betrayal. For more information, please see our My friend John had the Crossbow as a family heirloom. So, we select for items and against omens, under the theory that its 80% likely to benefit each of us. Another problem was a lack of player agency, not just in the game itself (always a problem inBetrayal), but in the campaign. Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window), Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window), Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window), Click to share on Skype (Opens in new window). Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Join Quests and Chaos as they Learn how to play through the board game Betrayal Legacy by Rob Daviau, and released by Avalon Hill of Wizards of the Coast. I still dont know what happened to any of them. Join half a million readers enjoying Newsweek's free newsletters, Betrayal Legacy is the best board gaming experience I've had, Everyone Practices Cancel Culture | Opinion, Deplatforming Free Speech is Dangerous | Opinion, 'Shadows in the Forest' Board Game Review. Co-op: The cooperative play of this Chapter is back to the multi-stage strategy that weve been missing. One weird Legacy item does show up at the end of the game: a helm that we can place our family crest stickers upon. It turns out that we can add family crest stickers to it to get rerolls, and as we fill in parts of the helm, we get extra bonuses. . I know we're being dumb. This has been an interesting addition, and its ability is explained during the set up for Game 3. Chapter Four: 1797 The Haunted Furniture The ghosts increasingly haunting the house possess the furniture this session, and we have to burn it in a fire before it kills us. For the purposes of this review you should know that there will be spoilers. She was the last person to go before the monsters won. So, players are strategically cooperating, but theres very little of the more interesting tactics which occasionally appeared on the peripheries of previous adventures. Youre in the house from the original game. And how many time can a single dice be re-rolled? The Omen cards are the most familiar, but thats our main continuity. ), Figure 1-2: Our main legacy elements to date: named cards, specifically introduced cards, and the deed. We get to look at them one at a time. Every time you sit down to play Betrayal Legacy, you must create a new person in your family tree. boardgame geek. We come under attack from a disease, which sends us search the Otherworlds, because thats the new mechanic. Each player adds one to a different spoke on the Helm at the start of Game 3, to get the ball rolling. Be sure to record everything that happens, such as if you are that mission's traitor or if your character died and where they died. After the final dice rolls we all stood and applauded, capable only of muttering "holy shit" to ourselves. I am sure you will have noticed that it is full of empty spaces that are just the right shape to hold Crest stickers. The game once more degenerates into a big fight, but this time its us vs. him, instead of everyone for himself. Can anyone explain to me how this is anything other than LAME? We do. There is not too much that needs explaining, except that its ability can only be used by each player, once per game. Once you finish the campaign and have fully realized your house there was a warm feeling of finality to the experience. More Geek Sites RPGGeek VideoGameGeek Geek Events. Certainly theres some good tension here, which is what you need for a horror game to work, but its not enough to offset the pure unfunness of being punished from every exploration. Privacy Policy. I was hooked at that moment. This shows us that a branch of many colours is a way of sharing the benefits at these times. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. It will contain **Spoilers up to and including Game 2**. A new mechanic that can only be used once, is easy to forget about, during the course of exploring the house, so just try and keep it in mind, once you read it. Figure 6-2: Our last rules addition, the Otherworlds, were disappointing (and frustrating). We may not remember the loss of the Guest Room, but we will remember the killing of the Baby every time this Bloody Room shows up. Tabletop and card game design. The Betrayal Legacy Chronicles, Part One discussed the first four adventures, while this continues this series with Chapters Four through Six. Liked it? Im not saying we didnt suspect what was going on in that first game. John asked her multiple times not to kill anything with it. So somewhere after Haunt 6, something should have told us to open door 3 in the folio infernum and get access to, and start placing gate stickers? They not only name them, but also put stickers on them that will provide special benefits in future games but only if they actually draw the items, or are given them. But can you only use the the Helm Rerolls on your own dice? These are the ten things that really stuck with me when we finished. I like the idea of revisiting the baby shark chant. One of my favorite Legacy games is Betrayal Legacy. . My niece would still like to play through it and Im considering it still. We even tried to figure out where to get more modern figures to replace them. There just wasnt enough Legacy at the start: it took until our fourth game for us to feel like a Legacy item was effective and to get elements like the helm and the changing house. I could have gone on. This one is YOURS. 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