Most places, its still over $1500. Yes, that is the cloud which is usually much larger than the silver lining. Bill Ruger was key in the implementing of the 94 AWB, refusing to sell evil 20+ round magazines to anyone but .gov entities? That is their only 2 clients because it only exists and was created for them. WebSo What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? There are more corrupt justices out their than honest ones. This will damage Springfield Armorys brand nation-wide, in a business where reputation is everything. Overall, this is a good, solid rifle. Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. They spent weeks trying to gin up interest in the XD-E introduction with their mysterious ads, and it was all for nothing. Pick something and follow it. Initially I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but after I thought about Reeses statement, and now that Ive seen Larsons statement, I would have liked to see hecklers run Springfields employees right out of Atlanta. You write as though weve been asleep. Obviously Springfield and others have not learned this lesson and are going down the same road. Are you reading-impaired? This product has an average rating of 4 stars out of 5 stars from 3 ratings. If IFMA had stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the NRA-ILA, the Illinois State Rifle Association, Guns Save Lifeand the National Shooting Sports Foundation working as a team to oppose this egregiousbill wed have had a good chance of depriving anti-gunners of a badly needed win. Maybe the deal was the result ofa lobbyist gone rogue. They are actively editing social media but refuse to address the issue. Im not ordering anything Springfield. We beat back a similar bill last year. When I explained that sales were still legal before the SAFE Act deadline went into force, they still refused. Many companies make mistakes, sometimes huge. Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. And their ammo prices were astronomical. Huh? This is why I said should not will. In my collection i have a M1A, a Socom 16, a XDM in 45 and a XDmod2 in 9mm. This says a lot about the people running the company. The owners at S&W that colluded with Clinton paid the price for it. One dealer told me hes pulling Springfield product from his shelves to give his salespeople a break from carping customers. Reese is a business guy, not a gun guy, as this video demonstrates: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkfjwStDUUQ, At 1:02 hes pointing the XD at the host (which Leathem mentions, ?). Some mightsay IFMAs change of heart might not have made a definitive difference. Thats bad, dont get me wrong. I would start negotiating with one of those for manufacturing space and move my entire operation to a gun-friendly climate. Should have just stuck to the point that hey, you can do anything you want to our dealers as long as you leave us out of it. It is in between 5.56 and .223, but will safely shoot both. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. Rock Bolt Gun Rbg-1s Starting At $4,450. If you dont support Ruger you dont support American ideals. WebRock River Arms Two Stage Match Trigger Kit4.5-5 lbThe RRA match AR trigger kit is designed for AR-15 and AR-10 Mil-Spec lower receivers with .154 trigger and hammer pins. This isnt really about the law itself. No wonder were in trouble, POTG are clueless. Out of stock Compare. I bought my first Rock Fuck them for gouging desperate buyers. At least Henry, like Ruger, is 100% American. CTD is my last choice. As I said on Thursday, when it comes to RRA I was, and still am, unsure if they had any foreknowledge of what was about to occur. Is Rob Leatham going to stick with Springfield after this debacle? Its GENESEO and its still about 3 hours from Chicago. We want our dealers and our valued customers to know we wont ever do anything like this again., We fully support the Second Amendment and stand by it. Your opinion and yourre entitled to it and welcome to voice it here, though it seems you prefer that others not voice theirs if they disagree with you. Are they doing town halls? Colona, IL (May 2020) Rock River Arms, one of the industry leaders in AR-platform firearms, expands its line of defensive semi-autos with the introduction of the RRAGE 10.5-inch pistol. From what I gathered from this article and all the information I viewed about this organization its hard to say just how much control SA and RRA has over the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. Brownells, Midway, Primary arms, Rainer, Wing Tactical, and SG Ammo are my favorite online retailers. CTD are dirtbags plain and simple. Last Updated. Anyone who tries will come out worse for the experience. and thats where the idea of 10 round limit for magazines originated,right from the mouth of Bill Ruger. If you know youre going to lose 50% off sticker driving something new off the lot, odds are you keep looking. See below for more information. Now they will pay the price. Rock River's LAR-458 is the top pick for hunters because of its value, excellent trigger and superb accuracy. He didnt say, Hey, we screwed up. Yes, very disappointed. Theyve come to the heart of flyover country because they know their anti-2A dogwont hunt back in Washington. Some times they have deals. Now that I understand what occurred its pretty obvious as gunners we need to pass on Springfield and run to Henry. If you dont like their price dont buy. What would I do if I was RRA and SAI? Robert, and we, the honest and dedicated advocates of the 2A and gun owners stand by TTAG in this. September 30, 2010 By Greg Rodriguez. No sane company would move in to Illinois unless it was to curry political favor in Chicago as Boeing moving their HQ (no production) did. They keep voting for F#$%ing Democrats. Good luck RRA. They will now go to the top so I can wear them out and use the warranty. How did Ruger even survive to do a turn-around? Better sell that RRA while you still can. First, they co-opt the name of a famous military armory to start a business with absolutely no ties to the original Springfield. This is going to be really bad for RRA and Springfield. However, too many judges seem to rule on what they think should be fine, instead of the law. you cant fix prices or youll get a shortage. Was very interested in this new pistol too as a possible single-stack semi-auto alternative to my J-frame. Absolutely love them. And if they do, all the company has to do is say sorry like Ruger. This Rock River PCC shows itself to be a well-engineered carbine ready to work (and look good doing it). Good for them, too. Accurate and precise for Gun owners have good memories, it will take a year but Springfield like Target will notice their mistake on their Revenue numbers and blame the weather, the president, insert excuse here. As the old adage goes, put up or shut up. The rifle comes fully loaded with a Rock River two-stage THEY MUST BE BOYCOTTED INTO BANKRUPTCY. $14.95 Per Firearm One $9.99 Charge For Any Amount of Accessories Find Senators and Representatives in close political battles last election and get their previously defeated opponents on board. thats what matter and they put that last. What would you have done differently if you ran SA or RRA with a workforce that is similarly trapped in soviet Illinois and depends on your company staying open and profitable to keep their jobs? Well also work on the NRA to start taking a firmer stance against rogue anti-2A manufacturers, no matter how much advertising space they buy. had I known earlier, I might have bought a few more colt revolvers..god I wish Id known. So I went on a buying spree. Keller dropped IFMAs opposition, providing cover for a couple of wavering Senators to vote for the bill. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. Didnt Smith and Wesson do the same thing back in the Clinton era, and it nearly bankrupted them, let alone took them years to reclaim the trust of the gun community. We reserve the right to adjust product prices as dictated by the market.. Thank you for bringing this issue to the forefront. It doesnt have to be both for the same reason. Was also saving up for an m1a. Thank God we have a Rural King now here local. The LAR-15 X-Series X-1 Rifle in .223/5.56mm from Rock River Arms is available at a manufacturer suggested retail price of $1,450.00 and $1,500.00, depending on the stock and color option (Black and Tan). Perhaps a company thought they could pull a fast one and nobody would notice. Looked at a custom SA 1911 before purchasing an STI. job creation they call it (bribery is such a dirty word). Great comment, but I dont think it is enough. All of these rifles are vastly superior to Ruger. The response was to Mark about the others being vastly superior, not your comment. 2nd Amendment Supporters are up in "Arms" pun intended about the News broken by The Truth About Guns article concerning recent state licensing for all Illinois gun dealers that IFMA (Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association) a lobbying group back by Springfield Armory and Rock River But when you have a muti million dollar company thats set up in a state thats you cant just pick up and move then you do what you have to do to survive. When a big box store is competitive on price with the local gun shop, you know there is a problem. To whom will they sell? Now I wish I had not. I read somewhere that there is a city named Springfield in almost every state in the Union. WARNING: The products offered for sale on this website can expose you to chemicals which are known to the State CEODennis Reese hasntresponded to a request for comment or a further statement beyond the one he released Thursday night. Having this blow up the day before a brand-new product launch at the NRA convention is basically the exact opposite of fortuitous timings for Springfield. But I wont EVER support a company who actively supports an infringement of any kind. My sprinters were not seeing much action lately. I think that if gun owners boycotted every company into oblivion that had to compromise at some point there wouldnt be any gun manufacturers around. FREE SHIPPING on orders over $90! Katrina gun confiscation showed us what any civil conflict will have as the belligerents, LEOs / Feds posing as LEOs giving you a hard choice.and a few Bundy-style standoffs. You and your mindset are one of the problems with this country. Low character move. I wont name them, but the sales people at certain companies worked hard (and maybe even fudged some dates on paperwork) to make sure that I got my magazines before the deadline in the law hit. The CMMG MkW-15 XBE Anvil gets the top pick for enthusiasts that handload or shoot a lot. How does a company respond to pernicious laws and an atmosphere which is detrimental to the People of the Gun? When I contacted Springfield about getting some spare magazines for my M1A, they told me they wouldnt sell to me because I lived in New York. Allexcept for gun owners and the non-big box store gun dealers who have to live and work in the Land of Lincoln. This rifle also has an RRA TRO-XL extended free float rail handguard and an accuracy of 3/4 MOA at 100 Yards. We will support our Illinois brethren and NOT purchase anything from Springfield Armory or RRA. Beretta (ex-MD) and Remington (ex-NY) make your statements look foolish. I think probably not. ), I DO have a choice with firearms. The rights of citizens that theyve agreed to negotiate away will NEVER be restored. In order to try to get a lock on about 1.6 million FOID holders in Illinois, Springfield has angered the other 80 million gun owners in the rest of the nation. Now for 2022, the company ups the game for hunters with the introduction of the All-Terrain Hunter (ATH) , a mid-length rifle that stands tall in the field of AR-platform hunting rifles. Hinterland #: 50977; MFG #: MT1800X; In stock. Had a Springfield 1911 that I sold late last year to fund another purchase and was thinking of replacing it with a TRP at some point guess this gives me all the excuses I needed to spend a few hundred more for a Dan Wesson or an STI. This would appear to be financial suicide by Springfield. Any I have to ask WHY? Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms Trade Opposition to Illinois FFL Licensing Scheme for Carve-Out. Both companies are stalwart defenders of 2A rights and arent in the habit of heavily funding Bloomberg puppet, anti gun politicians, as has been discovered of both SA and RRA. The more concentrated the producers and sellers of firearms becomes the easier it will be to controlled and monitored. It may not even pass the House. Granted, the company isnt run by a Henry these days but I thought the paper trail of ownership was fairly clear and unbroken. Advertise their treachery. If it is a 16" it is 5.56, which the Entry Tactical is. Springfield could have fought thisor vocally opposed it on its way to potential passage. You can not name another firearms manufacture today that has done more than Ruger to support the NRA, the 2A and firearms owners. Anyway, at least for now, I will bide my time and see if Springfield repents and takes positive actions to atone for their irrational IL acts. The S&W deal with Clinton was made on March 17, 2000 and the company was sold for $45 million ($15 million cash and $30 million in acquired debt) on May 11, 2001 Oh, hell no, he told me. Going the other direction nobody would move. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). You probably also found out that at least bizapedia reports that the IFMA was dissolved. Antifa is showing what they are willing to do, watch their fellow komrad take a LEO beanbag round to the wang and keep marching. As far as the betrayal, bear in mind that it was the act of a couple of people and unfortunately there are plenty of freedom loving 2nd Amendment supporters working for SA that will be harmed by their bad judgement. Thats kind of where Im at as well, REALLY pissed Im not going to be buying the Socom II Ive been saving for. Any combination of buying or selling that exceeds 9 is a crime if youre not a dealer. Simply offering ideas and encouragement. I think they and Illinois deserve each other and I hope they both end up on the wrong end of history. Asit should. This is how capitalism works. You are both dead to me now. The bills author was (mostly) Rugers attorneys. (Im a 30 yr Vet). Damn shame. County fairs? Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins. The vast majority of companies can do what they want to, but have have to insist that firearms companies fight for the 2nd EVEN WHEN ITS NOT IN THEIR COMPLETE SELF INTEREST TO DO SO. Out of stock. And I believe it came with an internal lock on the main spring housing. While it was a great pistol, the front strap checkering was just way too aggressive for bare hands. NOW all I can think is SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! But thats only a fraction of his treachery. Well, not basically, they did. Springfield is DEAD to me. Did SA forget that this isnt 1988 anymore and that the internet exists? I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. So I have to ask. I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. Neither will have the working capitol to sustain a relocation. Make this a massive intractable mess. As for Springfield Armory, Im really sorry to see them cross over to the dark side. As if they want to implode. It washis lobbyist whostood aside on a bill that rations everyday Illinoisans to nine firearm transfers per year. When the Maryland Leftistlature passed the odious Gun Safety Act of 2013, making it illegal to purchase many of the firearms made by the venerable Beretta concern, they responded by building their new facility in Tennessee, giving Maryland a stalwart raised middle finger and taking a considerable amount of tax revenue with them.. Ive not the least doubt that the rest of Beretta will eventually follow. With all the gun control in northern Illinois how the hell can they screw all of us like this! People are watching everything the government and companies are doing now. 3) Lobbyist got paid by someone else to convince his clients this was a slick deal. If theres something worse than a fanboy, its a fanboy fudd. Up yours Springfield! see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. If you are willing to do 9mm, check out an Honor Guard. Thats a double-whammy of reduced demand in the current market. IFMAs Keller testified in March at the Illinois Senate Judiciary committee of his willingness to consider dropping the lobbying groupsopposition to the bill if his clients were exempted. In short, this means rifle-makers need to adapt, and one company taking that step is Rock River Arms (RRA) with its LAR-15 Operator III in 5.56mm NATO. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? Bill Ruger retired from the company in 2000 and died in 2002. If RRA really didnt know about this, then their next steps should be to cancel their membership in IFMA, denounce the lobying they did, and maybe start looking to move. The RBG-1S is available in .308 Win./7.62x51 and 6.5 Creedmoor, with a 20-, 22- or 24-inch barrel, and a black, green or tan stock. 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